FiiO JM21 vs Hidizs AP80 Pro Max

Both are portable players, $199 against $179. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?

The FiiO JM21 reaches 100 dB on 566 of the 567 models here, the Hidizs AP80 Pro Max on 556.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationFiiO JM21Hidizs AP80 Pro Max
Power into 32Ω245 mW70 mW
Power into 150Ω56 mW15 mW
Power into 300Ω30 mW7.5 mW
Power into 600Ω15 mW3.7 mW
Output impedance1 Ωnot published
Output noise1.6 µVnot published
Price$199$179
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
566556

A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadFiiO JM21Hidizs AP80 Pro Max
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedDerived
600 ΩDerivedDerived

Both makers publish a power rating, which is less common than the table above makes it look: of the 280 sources here, 209 publish a figure at at least one load and only 2 publish one at all four. FiiO JM21 publishes at 32 Ω and at 300 Ω; Hidizs AP80 Pro Max at 32 Ω. Every other row is worked out from those — between two published loads, or beyond them holding voltage constant, which understates rather than flatters.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 300 Ω only the FiiO JM21 figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What each of these labels means, and why a derived figure is still worth printing, is set out in how this data was built.

The headphones that tell them apart

10 headphones reach 100 dB on the FiiO JM21 but not on the Hidizs AP80 Pro Max — HiFiMAN Susvara, Moondrop COSMO, Moondrop PARA, 7 more.

556 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

The counts above say how many models the two treat differently. This says by how much. The same 8 headphones appear on every page of this kind, ordered from the easiest to drive to the hardest, so a row can be read across pages as well as across columns. Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Shure SE846: FiiO JM21 has +37 dB of headroom there against +27 dB. 10 dB is about 10 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

The hiss columns are empty for Hidizs AP80 Pro Max because that maker publishes no output noise figure. That is a gap in the specification, not a quiet amplifier, and it is left blank here rather than filled with a plausible number.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsFiiO JM21 headroomHidizs AP80 Pro Max headroomFiiO JM21 hissHidizs AP80 Pro Max hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+37 dB+27 dB19 dBnot published
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+17 dB+7 dB-1 dBnot published
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+22 dB+16 dB-3 dBnot published
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+17 dB+12 dB-8 dBnot published
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+15 dB+8 dB-9 dBnot published
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+11 dB+5 dB-15 dBnot published
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+7 dB+1 dB-19 dBnot published
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+4 dB-1 dB-21 dBnot published

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The FiiO JM21 costs $20 more than the Hidizs AP80 Pro Max. Out of the 567 models here, that difference buys 10 more models driven to 100 dB.

Nothing runs the other way: there is no axis here on which the cheaper of the two does better.

Everything in this paragraph counts only figures the two makers published. An advantage on an axis one of them leaves blank cannot be counted, and is not counted — how often that happens is its own page.

Both pages in full

Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: FiiO JM21 and Hidizs AP80 Pro Max. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.

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