Lake People G103-S Mk II vs Lake People G111 Mk II

Both are desktop amplifiers, $350 against $629. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?

The Lake People G111 Mk II reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 models here, the Lake People G103-S Mk II on 566.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationLake People G103-S Mk IILake People G111 Mk II
Power into 32Ω1.0 W1.4 W
Power into 150Ω804 mW1.4 W
Power into 300Ω580 mW1.1 W
Power into 600Ω340 mW600 mW
Output impedance0.1 Ω0.125 Ω
Output noise6.15 µV6.9 µV
Price$350$629
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
566567

A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadLake People G103-S Mk IILake People G111 Mk II
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedPublished
600 ΩPublishedPublished

Both makers publish a power rating, which is less common than the table above makes it look: of the 280 sources here, 209 publish a figure at at least one load and only 2 publish one at all four. Lake People G103-S Mk II publishes at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω; Lake People G111 Mk II at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω. Every other row is worked out from those — between two published loads, or beyond them holding voltage constant, which understates rather than flatters.

The two publish at the same loads, which is the one case where the rows of this table can be read straight across.

What each of these labels means, and why a derived figure is still worth printing, is set out in how this data was built.

The headphones that tell them apart

1 headphone reaches 100 dB on the Lake People G111 Mk II but not on the Lake People G103-S Mk II — Symphonium Titan.

18 headphones stay below the audible-hiss threshold on the Lake People G103-S Mk II but cross it on the Lake People G111 Mk II (64 Audio Aspire 1, 64 Audio Ocean, AFUL Explorer, 15 more).

566 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

The counts above say how many models the two treat differently. This says by how much. The same 8 headphones appear on every page of this kind, ordered from the easiest to drive to the hardest, so a row can be read across pages as well as across columns. Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Sennheiser HD 600: Lake People G111 Mk II has +22 dB of headroom there against +19 dB. 3 dB is about 1.8 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

Hiss is this source’s own noise, in decibels SPL, in that headphone — not a rating. Below about 20 dB SPL it is under the threshold of hearing in a quiet room; a negative figure means it is far below it.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsLake People G103-S Mk II headroomLake People G111 Mk II headroomLake People G103-S Mk II hissLake People G111 Mk II hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+38 dB+40 dB30 dB31 dB
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+18 dB+20 dB10 dB11 dB
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+32 dB+34 dB8 dB9 dB
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+30 dB+32 dB4 dB5 dB
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+20 dB+22 dB3 dB4 dB
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+24 dB+27 dB-3 dB-2 dB
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+19 dB+22 dB-7 dB-6 dB
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+14 dB+16 dB-9 dB-8 dB

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The Lake People G111 Mk II costs $279 more than the Lake People G103-S Mk II. Out of the 567 models here, that difference buys 1 more model driven to 100 dB.

It does not run one way only: the cheaper Lake People G103-S Mk II keeps 18 models below the audible-hiss threshold that the Lake People G111 Mk II does not, which is the part worth checking against your own headphones before paying the difference.

Everything in this paragraph counts only figures the two makers published. An advantage on an axis one of them leaves blank cannot be counted, and is not counted — how often that happens is its own page.

Both pages in full

Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: Lake People G103-S Mk II and Lake People G111 Mk II. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.

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