Lake People G111 Mk II vs Topping A90 Discrete

Both are desktop amplifiers, $629 against $599. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?

On raw power they are level: each reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 non-electrostatic models here.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationLake People G111 Mk IITopping A90 Discrete
Power into 32Ω1.4 W2.0 W
Power into 150Ω1.4 W480 mW
Power into 300Ω1.1 W250 mW
Power into 600Ω600 mW125 mW
Output impedance0.125 Ω0.1 Ω
Output noise6.9 µV0.2 µV
Price$629$599
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
567567

A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadLake People G111 Mk IITopping A90 Discrete
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedPublished
600 ΩPublishedDerived

Both makers publish a power rating, which is less common than the table above makes it look: of the 280 sources here, 209 publish a figure at at least one load and only 2 publish one at all four. Lake People G111 Mk II publishes at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω; Topping A90 Discrete at 32 Ω and at 300 Ω. Every other row is worked out from those — between two published loads, or beyond them holding voltage constant, which understates rather than flatters.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 600 Ω only the Lake People G111 Mk II figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What each of these labels means, and why a derived figure is still worth printing, is set out in how this data was built.

The headphones that tell them apart

On power they are interchangeable across this whole database: there is no headphone here that one reaches 100 dB on and the other does not.

116 headphones stay below the audible-hiss threshold on the Topping A90 Discrete but cross it on the Lake People G111 Mk II (64 Audio Aspire 1, 64 Audio Fourte, 64 Audio Nio, 113 more).

567 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

The counts above say how many models the two treat differently. This says by how much. The same 8 headphones appear on every page of this kind, ordered from the easiest to drive to the hardest, so a row can be read across pages as well as across columns. Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Audio-Technica ATH-R70X: Lake People G111 Mk II has +27 dB of headroom there against +20 dB. 7 dB is about 4.5 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

Hiss is this source’s own noise, in decibels SPL, in that headphone — not a rating. Below about 20 dB SPL it is under the threshold of hearing in a quiet room; a negative figure means it is far below it.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsLake People G111 Mk II headroomTopping A90 Discrete headroomLake People G111 Mk II hissTopping A90 Discrete hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+40 dB+47 dB31 dB0 dB
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+20 dB+27 dB11 dB-20 dB
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+34 dB+31 dB9 dB-21 dB
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+32 dB+27 dB5 dB-26 dB
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+22 dB+25 dB4 dB-27 dB
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+27 dB+20 dB-2 dB-33 dB
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+22 dB+16 dB-6 dB-37 dB
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+16 dB+14 dB-8 dB-39 dB

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The Lake People G111 Mk II costs $30 more than the Topping A90 Discrete, and on these three axes the money buys nothing: among the 567 models here there is not one that the Lake People G111 Mk II handles and the Topping A90 Discrete does not — not on power, not on the one-eighth rule, not on hiss. The traffic runs the other way: the cheaper Topping A90 Discrete keeps 116 models below the audible-hiss threshold that the Lake People G111 Mk II does not.

Everything in this paragraph counts only figures the two makers published. An advantage on an axis one of them leaves blank cannot be counted, and is not counted — how often that happens is its own page.

Both pages in full

Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: Lake People G111 Mk II and Topping A90 Discrete. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.

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