Schiit Mjolnir 3 vs Schiit Vali 2+

Both are desktop amplifiers, $1199 against $149. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?

The Schiit Vali 2+ reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 models here, the Schiit Mjolnir 3 on 566.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationSchiit Mjolnir 3Schiit Vali 2+
Power into 32Ω1.0 W1.5 W
Power into 150Ω488 mW496 mW
Power into 300Ω500 mW400 mW
Power into 600Ω250 mW200 mW
Output impedance0.13 Ω1.8 Ω
Output noise25.18 µV25 µV unverified
Price$1199$149
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
566567

A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadSchiit Mjolnir 3Schiit Vali 2+
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedPublished
600 ΩDerivedPublished

Both makers publish a power rating, which is less common than the table above makes it look: of the 280 sources here, 209 publish a figure at at least one load and only 2 publish one at all four. Schiit Mjolnir 3 publishes at 32 Ω and at 300 Ω; Schiit Vali 2+ at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω. Every other row is worked out from those — between two published loads, or beyond them holding voltage constant, which understates rather than flatters.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 600 Ω only the Schiit Vali 2+ figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What each of these labels means, and why a derived figure is still worth printing, is set out in how this data was built.

The headphones that tell them apart

1 headphone reaches 100 dB on the Schiit Vali 2+ but not on the Schiit Mjolnir 3 — Symphonium Titan.

72 headphones are left alone by the Schiit Mjolnir 3 under the one-eighth rule but coloured by the Schiit Vali 2+ (64 Audio Aspire 1, 64 Audio Fourte, 64 Audio Nio, 69 more).

566 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

The counts above say how many models the two treat differently. This says by how much. The same 8 headphones appear on every page of this kind, ordered from the easiest to drive to the hardest, so a row can be read across pages as well as across columns. Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Campfire Audio Andromeda 2020: Schiit Vali 2+ has +20 dB of headroom there against +18 dB. 2 dB is about 1.5 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

The hiss columns are empty for Schiit Vali 2+ because that maker publishes no output noise figure. That is a gap in the specification, not a quiet amplifier, and it is left blank here rather than filled with a plausible number.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsSchiit Mjolnir 3 headroomSchiit Vali 2+ headroomSchiit Mjolnir 3 hissSchiit Vali 2+ hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+38 dB+40 dB damping42 dBnot published
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+18 dB+20 dB damping22 dBnot published
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+29 dB+30 dB21 dBnot published
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+29 dB+28 dB16 dBnot published
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+20 dB+22 dB15 dBnot published
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+23 dB+22 dB9 dBnot published
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+19 dB+18 dB5 dBnot published
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+11 dB+12 dB3 dBnot published

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The Schiit Mjolnir 3 costs $1050 more than the Schiit Vali 2+. Out of the 567 models here, that difference buys 72 more models left alone under the one-eighth rule.

It does not run one way only: the cheaper Schiit Vali 2+ drives one model to 100 dB that the Schiit Mjolnir 3 does not, which is the part worth checking against your own headphones before paying the difference.

Everything in this paragraph counts only figures the two makers published. An advantage on an axis one of them leaves blank cannot be counted, and is not counted — how often that happens is its own page.

Both pages in full

Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: Schiit Mjolnir 3 and Schiit Vali 2+. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.

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