Schiit Valhalla 3 vs Schiit Vali 2+

Both are desktop amplifiers, $499 against $149. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?

The Schiit Vali 2+ reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 models here, the Schiit Valhalla 3 on 566.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationSchiit Valhalla 3Schiit Vali 2+
Power into 32Ω750 mW1.5 W
Power into 150Ω286 mW496 mW
Power into 300Ω250 mW400 mW
Power into 600Ω125 mW200 mW
Output impedance25 Ω1.8 Ω
Output noise6.32 µV25 µV unverified
Price$499$149
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
566567

A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadSchiit Valhalla 3Schiit Vali 2+
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedPublished
600 ΩDerivedPublished

Both makers publish a power rating, which is less common than the table above makes it look: of the 280 sources here, 209 publish a figure at at least one load and only 2 publish one at all four. Schiit Valhalla 3 publishes at 32 Ω and at 300 Ω; Schiit Vali 2+ at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω. Every other row is worked out from those — between two published loads, or beyond them holding voltage constant, which understates rather than flatters.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 600 Ω only the Schiit Vali 2+ figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What each of these labels means, and why a derived figure is still worth printing, is set out in how this data was built.

The headphones that tell them apart

1 headphone reaches 100 dB on the Schiit Vali 2+ but not on the Schiit Valhalla 3 — Symphonium Titan.

463 headphones are left alone by the Schiit Vali 2+ under the one-eighth rule but coloured by the Schiit Valhalla 3 (64 Audio Solo, 7Hz Legato, 7Hz Salnotes Zero, 460 more).

566 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

The counts above say how many models the two treat differently. This says by how much. The same 8 headphones appear on every page of this kind, ordered from the easiest to drive to the hardest, so a row can be read across pages as well as across columns. Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Campfire Audio Andromeda 2020: Schiit Vali 2+ has +20 dB of headroom there against +17 dB. 3 dB is twice the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

The hiss columns are empty for Schiit Vali 2+ because that maker publishes no output noise figure. That is a gap in the specification, not a quiet amplifier, and it is left blank here rather than filled with a plausible number.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsSchiit Valhalla 3 headroomSchiit Vali 2+ headroomSchiit Valhalla 3 hissSchiit Vali 2+ hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+37 dB damping+40 dB damping30 dBnot published
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+17 dB damping+20 dB damping10 dBnot published
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+27 dB damping+30 dB9 dBnot published
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+26 dB+28 dB4 dBnot published
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+19 dB damping+22 dB3 dBnot published
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+20 dB+22 dB-3 dBnot published
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+16 dB+18 dB-7 dBnot published
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+10 dB damping+12 dB-9 dBnot published

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The Schiit Valhalla 3 costs $350 more than the Schiit Vali 2+, and on these three axes the money buys nothing: among the 567 models here there is not one that the Schiit Valhalla 3 handles and the Schiit Vali 2+ does not — not on power, not on the one-eighth rule, not on hiss. The traffic runs the other way: the cheaper Schiit Vali 2+ drives one model to 100 dB and leaves 463 alone under the one-eighth rule that the Schiit Valhalla 3 does not.

Everything in this paragraph counts only figures the two makers published. An advantage on an axis one of them leaves blank cannot be counted, and is not counted — how often that happens is its own page.

Both pages in full

Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: Schiit Valhalla 3 and Schiit Vali 2+. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.

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