Audeze LCD-5 vs Sennheiser HD 800S: which needs more amplifier?

The Audeze LCD-5 is 14Ω at 90.0 dB/mW; the Sennheiser HD 800S is 300Ω at 96.8 dB/mW. This page is only about what they ask of an amplifier — not how they sound, which no specification on either sheet can tell you.

The Audeze LCD-5 needs 6.8 dB more than the Sennheiser HD 800S to reach the same loudness — 10 mW against 2.1 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationAudeze LCD-5Sennheiser HD 800S
Impedance14 Ω300 Ω
Sensitivity90.0 dB/mW96.8 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)108.5 dB/V102.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB10 mW2.1 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.37 V0.79 V
Current for 100 dB26.7 mA2.6 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
1.75 Ω37.50 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
274277

Where the two part company

1 of the 280 sources has the power for the Audeze LCD-5 but not for the Sennheiser HD 800S — Sony NW-A306.

4 of the 280 sources have the power for the Sennheiser HD 800S but not for the Audeze LCD-5 — Zoom AMS-22, Tascam US-2x2HR, Roland Rubix22, 1 more.

24 sources are low enough in output impedance for the Sennheiser HD 800S under the one-eighth rule but not for the Audeze LCD-5 (Zoom AMS-22, Arturia MiniFuse 2, Arturia MiniFuse 1, 21 more).

273 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both. That count is about power only — the output-impedance and hiss lines above are separate questions, and a source can pass this one and fail those.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The gap between these two in decibels does not change with volume — it is a property of the two headphones. What changes is the size of the numbers, and it changes fast: every 10 dB costs ten times the power. The row that matters is the one nearest the level you listen at, and for most people that is nearer the top of this table than the bottom.

The Sennheiser HD 800S is more demanding than 94% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Audeze LCD-5 than 81%. Both figures use the same measure as the rest of the site: whichever runs out first against a 2 V, 100 mW dongle, voltage or power.

dB SPLAudeze LCD-5 powerAudeze LCD-5 voltageSennheiser HD 800S powerSennheiser HD 800S voltage
800.10 mW37 mV0.02 mW79 mV
850.32 mW67 mV0.07 mW0.14 V
901.0 mW0.12 V0.21 mW0.25 V
953.2 mW0.21 V0.66 mW0.45 V
10010 mW0.37 V2.1 mW0.79 V
10532 mW0.67 V6.6 mW1.41 V

105 dB is included because forum power figures are usually quoted there or higher. It is also a level that damages hearing in minutes — how many minutes is its own calculator.

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, Audeze LCD-5Headroom, Sennheiser HD 800SOutput impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$201.2 dB1.9 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2913.3 dB10.2 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR11$366.0 dB1.6 dB0.5 Ω8.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 273 reach 100 dB on both. That is the easy axis. 70 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both — the rest either fail one of those or never printed the number at all, and 201 of them are in the second group.

The cheapest of the 70 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 1.2 dB of headroom on the Audeze LCD-5 and 1.9 dB on the Sennheiser HD 800S, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 1.75 Ω and 37.50 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 27 dB and 33 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Cheapest that satisfies three published numbers is not the same as best, and none of it is about how either headphone sounds. To put either model against a source this page does not mention, or to change the target loudness, use the amplifier matcher.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
Audeze LCD-55Hz - 50kHznot printednot printed
Sennheiser HD 800S4 Hz - 51,000 Hznot printednot printed

Audeze prints 5Hz - 50kHz for the LCD-5. Sennheiser prints 4 Hz - 51,000 Hz for the HD 800S.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, and that is the whole of what this section can tell you. A wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble on that headphone: without a tolerance, neither number says how loud either model is at the ends of its own range, so the difference between the two is a difference between two pieces of marketing copy. A ±dB figure is what turns a range into a specification, and of the 490 models whose maker prints a range, 58 print it.

None of this is a measurement. What each maker publishes, and what it is worth, is set out in the frequency response audit.

Both pages in full

Each model has a page of its own with the full source list, the hiss estimate and the provenance of every figure above: Audeze LCD-5 and Sennheiser HD 800S. Every figure on this page comes from what Audeze and Sennheiser published, or is derived from it — what Audeze publishes and what Sennheiser publishes, both counted.

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