Audio-Technica ATH-R70X vs Sennheiser HD 800: which needs more amplifier?

The Audio-Technica ATH-R70X is 470Ω at 98.0 dB/mW; the Sennheiser HD 800 is 300Ω at 96.8 dB/mW. This page is only about what they ask of an amplifier — not how they sound, which no specification on either sheet can tell you.

The Sennheiser HD 800 needs 1.2 dB more than the Audio-Technica ATH-R70X to reach the same loudness — 2.1 mW against 1.6 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationAudio-Technica ATH-R70XSennheiser HD 800
Impedance470 Ω300 Ω
Sensitivity98.0 dB/mW96.8 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)101.3 dB/V102.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB1.6 mW2.1 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.86 V0.79 V
Current for 100 dB1.8 mA2.6 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
58.75 Ω37.50 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
277277

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

13 sources are low enough in output impedance for the Audio-Technica ATH-R70X under the one-eighth rule but not for the Sennheiser HD 800 (Audient EVO 4, ART HeadAmp 4 Pro, Focusrite Scarlett Solo 4th gen, 10 more).

277 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both. That count is about power only — the output-impedance and hiss lines above are separate questions, and a source can pass this one and fail those.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The gap between these two in decibels does not change with volume — it is a property of the two headphones. What changes is the size of the numbers, and it changes fast: every 10 dB costs ten times the power. The row that matters is the one nearest the level you listen at, and for most people that is nearer the top of this table than the bottom.

The Audio-Technica ATH-R70X is more demanding than 96% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Sennheiser HD 800 than 94%. Both figures use the same measure as the rest of the site: whichever runs out first against a 2 V, 100 mW dongle, voltage or power.

dB SPLAudio-Technica ATH-R70X powerAudio-Technica ATH-R70X voltageSennheiser HD 800 powerSennheiser HD 800 voltage
800.02 mW86 mV0.02 mW79 mV
850.05 mW0.15 V0.07 mW0.14 V
900.16 mW0.27 V0.21 mW0.25 V
950.50 mW0.49 V0.66 mW0.45 V
1001.6 mW0.86 V2.1 mW0.79 V
1055.0 mW1.53 V6.6 mW1.41 V

105 dB is included because forum power figures are usually quoted there or higher. It is also a level that damages hearing in minutes — how many minutes is its own calculator.

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, Audio-Technica ATH-R70XHeadroom, Sennheiser HD 800Output impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$201.1 dB1.9 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$299.5 dB10.2 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR11$360.8 dB1.6 dB0.5 Ω8.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 277 reach 100 dB on both. That is the easy axis. 72 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both — the rest either fail one of those or never printed the number at all, and 205 of them are in the second group.

The cheapest of the 72 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 1.1 dB of headroom on the Audio-Technica ATH-R70X and 1.9 dB on the Sennheiser HD 800, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 58.75 Ω and 37.50 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 34 dB and 33 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Cheapest that satisfies three published numbers is not the same as best, and none of it is about how either headphone sounds. To put either model against a source this page does not mention, or to change the target loudness, use the amplifier matcher.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X5 - 40,000 Hznot printednot printed
Sennheiser HD 800nothing printed——

Audio-Technica prints 5 - 40,000 Hz for the ATH-R70X. Sennheiser prints nothing at all for the HD 800.

Sennheiser HD 800: Sennheiser still has a page for the HD 800, but it is a retired-product page: it offers a replacement model and spare parts and carries no specification table at all. The same site prints a full table, frequency response included, for the models it still sells.

So one side of this comparison has a frequency-response number and the other does not — which changes less than it looks. The range printed for the Audio-Technica ATH-R70X comes with no tolerance beside it, and a range without a ±dB figure says nothing about how loud the headphone is at either end of it: thirty decibels down at the bottom and the sentence would still be true. On the only reading that would have made it a specification, the two sheets say the same amount: nothing.

None of this is a measurement. What each maker publishes, and what it is worth, is set out in the frequency response audit.

Both pages in full

Each model has a page of its own with the full source list, the hiss estimate and the provenance of every figure above: Audio-Technica ATH-R70X and Sennheiser HD 800. Every figure on this page comes from what Audio-Technica and Sennheiser published, or is derived from it — what Audio-Technica publishes and what Sennheiser publishes, both counted.

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