Rupert Neve RNHP vs Schiit Lyr 5

Both are desktop amplifiers, $699 against $799. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?

The Schiit Lyr 5 reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 models here, the Rupert Neve RNHP on 566.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationRupert Neve RNHPSchiit Lyr 5
Power into 32Ω262 mW6.0 W
Power into 150Ω175 mW1.5 W
Power into 300Ω88 mW900 mW
Power into 600Ω44 mW450 mW
Output impedance0.08 Ω0.4 Ω
Output noise8.03 µV3.99 µV
Price$699$799
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
566567

A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadRupert Neve RNHPSchiit Lyr 5
32 ΩDerivedPublished
150 ΩPublishedDerived
300 ΩDerivedPublished
600 ΩDerivedPublished

Both makers publish a power rating, which is less common than the table above makes it look: of the 280 sources here, 209 publish a figure at at least one load and only 2 publish one at all four. Rupert Neve RNHP publishes at 150 Ω; Schiit Lyr 5 at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω. Every other row is worked out from those — between two published loads, or beyond them holding voltage constant, which understates rather than flatters.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 150 Ω only the Rupert Neve RNHP figure is the maker’s own and at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω only the Schiit Lyr 5 figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What each of these labels means, and why a derived figure is still worth printing, is set out in how this data was built.

The headphones that tell them apart

1 headphone reaches 100 dB on the Schiit Lyr 5 but not on the Rupert Neve RNHP — Symphonium Titan.

1 headphone is left alone by the Rupert Neve RNHP under the one-eighth rule but coloured by the Schiit Lyr 5 (Symphonium Titan).

113 headphones stay below the audible-hiss threshold on the Schiit Lyr 5 but cross it on the Rupert Neve RNHP (64 Audio Aspire 1, 64 Audio Nio, 64 Audio Ocean, 110 more).

566 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

The counts above say how many models the two treat differently. This says by how much. The same 8 headphones appear on every page of this kind, ordered from the easiest to drive to the hardest, so a row can be read across pages as well as across columns. Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Shure SE846: Schiit Lyr 5 has +51 dB of headroom there against +35 dB. 16 dB is about 39 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

Hiss is this source’s own noise, in decibels SPL, in that headphone — not a rating. Below about 20 dB SPL it is under the threshold of hearing in a quiet room; a negative figure means it is far below it.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsRupert Neve RNHP headroomSchiit Lyr 5 headroomRupert Neve RNHP hissSchiit Lyr 5 hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+35 dB+51 dB33 dB26 dB
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+15 dB+31 dB13 dB6 dB
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+25 dB+36 dB11 dB5 dB
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+22 dB+32 dB6 dB0 dB
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+15 dB+29 dB5 dB-1 dB
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+15 dB+26 dB-1 dB-7 dB
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+11 dB+21 dB-5 dB-11 dB
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+7 dB+18 dB-7 dB-13 dB

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The Schiit Lyr 5 costs $100 more than the Rupert Neve RNHP. Out of the 567 models here, that difference buys 1 more model driven to 100 dB and 113 more models kept below the audible-hiss threshold.

It does not run one way only: the cheaper Rupert Neve RNHP leaves one model alone under the one-eighth rule that the Schiit Lyr 5 does not, which is the part worth checking against your own headphones before paying the difference.

Everything in this paragraph counts only figures the two makers published. An advantage on an axis one of them leaves blank cannot be counted, and is not counted — how often that happens is its own page.

Both pages in full

Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: Rupert Neve RNHP and Schiit Lyr 5. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.

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